DISQUS

kinggenesis · 2 months ago

ok this is why heroes is stupid....at the end of the last season hiro could only stop time courtesy of baby touch and go. and now all of the sudden he can travel through time ... how and why.. will probably never be explained due to lack of good story telling. or planing on behalf of the writers for this hit of a show... so were all just going to except this. and more than likely wine and complaaine about every episode like we did last season after saying how cool they were. with the effects and such .. this time traveling thing is whats really gonna hurt the show which is why they took the power from him in the first place. but because we want answers theyll give him his power back. and somehow as they always do. theyll mess it up which leads to our (the fans) complaints. so eventually theyll kill him off or take his powers again. and because of all the holes from seasons 1 through 3. theyll have no choice but to take his powers away.the reasons are obvious. theres no need for me to explaine or go into detail. uhhumm Dr suresh sr. and patient zero. and the camp all the specials were in . thats Hole #1 and the list goes on.BUT they did do a good job with peter (SO FAR) and adam monroe . that woulda have been a hell ofa story but they killed him off. so sucks for us. huh

heroguy · 2 months ago

you obviously dont pay attention thats why you think there are plot holes...

kinggenesis · 2 months ago

no sir you obviously dont pay attention. do you have the season box set's if not ill let you borrow them . just so we can see things on the same level cause one of us is clearly missing info. and im pretty sure its not me.

heroguy · 2 months ago

yes I do and Ive watched them well over 3 times

jesse313 · 2 months ago

either way people are still gonna watch because of the new cast and their powers and see if peter got his power back or see hiro time travel so no one should complain hell it could of been cancelled

kinggenesis · 2 months ago

thats why people should complaine.. they took there powers from them for a reason. and sience the writers only planned like 3 episodes in advance . they have no clue as to what to do next. so they give their powers back with little to no explanation.its a big circle of clueless moves followed by lack of story telling.that should have with out a shadow of a doubt been canceled . but nbc relies so heavily on this show. that theyll do anything to keep it. besides keep bryan fuller. he was the backbone of the whole show and tim was nothing more than the brain child.but i do like this show im just pointing out the obvious reasons that need to be fixed or atleast touched on a little bit

heroguy · 2 months ago

ok well there not gonna tell you everything right away then why would we watch? its called suspence and wonder thats what this show has and always been since day one.

dozer420 · 2 months ago

How are people gonna start complaining about not getting an explanation of stuff when the show doesn't even start for 2 more days? Clearly you are just a person who is just itching to complain because if you really liked Heroes the way the rest of us do you would probably just point out the good in the series. Just out of curiosity how is the camp for specials a plot hole???? They just discovered some paper work that talked about coyote sands big deal, and as far as Sylar being patient Zero that clearly doesnt mean he is the first special considering Chandra already had a special daughter many years earlier. And besides in a world full of conspiracy where people get killed and have their memories wiped out all the time who is to say that to prevent Chandra from ever doing anything like Coyote Sands again they just didnt wipe his memory. Just because the Haitian wasn't born yet doesnt mean their wasnt another with a similiar power because we do see repeat abilities all the time. Parkman, deveaux, maury, and arthur all had mind control powers so whats to say that Charles didn't wipe him, just because you dont see it in the story physically doesnt mean your imagination shouldnt just run wild with it.. That is what Heroes is about to me, makes me think of cool stuff not waste my breathe and fingertips complaining on a message board. CANT WAIT TIL MONDAY!!!

heroguy · 2 months ago

I can not agree with you more, well said

unsunghero · 2 months ago

I hate jumping in on these sort of things, but this is essentially the point Kinggenesis seems to be trying to make! Instead of taking excellent story opportunities to explain these plot holes like you've just done with the Coyote Sands example, the show glosses right over them, leaving the fans to make up any number of theories to fill in the gaps. I could see if the show made any indication of someday returning to these plotlines and giving them official closure, or at least rectifying the apparent inconsistencies, but they seemingly never do. Almost every long-term fan of the show can name a plot-point or two that's been left dangling with no true end in sight (Nathan's family for one--albeit, I am legitimately surprised Matt's family came back into play at the end of Volume 4).

I feel like I understand what Kinggenesis is saying; Heroes is an awesome show, and I'll be a fan until the end, but let's face it, the show is rather frustrating at times due to inconsistencies and little slip ups here and there in attention to detail.

On another note, I'd really like to see this show return to the days where the word "Emmy" seemed to drift awfully close this exciting little series...

dozer420 · 2 months ago

I do agree with you, I understand that they leave a lot of plot holes, some are covered in the graphic novels but definitely not all. I like to use my imagination to fill them in because its fun, but yes I do wish they would explain Nathans family, Caitlin, more about coyote sands, but that is where reality comes in and they just dont have the time or budget in a failing economy to keep up these amazing stories and that kinda sucks. I'll be a die hard fan until the end and beyond and I hate jumping in on complaint blogs to but why complain when every one knows there is a logical explanation.....As far as Hiro being able to time travel people are tearing at this plot point in a negative way because he couldn't time travel last season at the end....they won't even give Heroes a chance to explain before they complain and that sucks to me....and besides doesn't Ando super charge powers!!!! Maybe he'll give Hiro the boost he needs to time travel these last few times before his demise...wouldn't that make sense?

kinggenesis · 2 months ago

thank you thats all i wanted to hear(read) im done complaining now i just needed to no im not the only who see these things

kinggenesis · 2 months ago

ok. i will point out the good in heroes. season one killed it that was the hottest season of any show besides lost. season two they did alright with the twist of kensi/ the white english man. season 3 they killed the 400 year old hero who would have been the one to really start the heroes, well thats how i would have made the story. and then they killed the company by burning down one (1) of the several building across the united states . odessa and new york i believe there was one in cali. but after only burning one thay destroyed the whole thing somehow.. and back to season 2 maya was a good cast her brother glad they killed him monica was one of the best heroes but wered she go ????? ummm nikki should have kept her alive but i like tracy better dl they killed him retardedly the guy can phase through objects but died from a bullet wound. micha i can understand why he's not in the show as much same goes for molly . sylar they went crazy with personally i thought that was awesome . peter was cool o like how they took his powers arthure was the man. but angela was obviously the better women matt parkman sr. loved him even the way he died (classic) matt parkman love the way hes using his power and baby parkman so cute. have i touched on all the good stuff. now to answer all your questions of my complaning first off mr. dozer420 (good name) the camp.. dr. suresh in season one believed in super powered humans he didnt no about them . notice he a little old . and also patient zero aka sylar when the two fianlly meet he is so surprised by what he sees (Still no mention of a camp) . only to be killed by the man. but in season 3 he was in a camp full of mini heroes that we grew to love plus his daughter is what annitially started his research well thats what the writers said .. and about the haitain and the possibilty taht there was another one .... ok ill go with you there... good point. and hero guy we all no there not gonna tell you everything in the first episode. duh. but if you watch all the episode as i have many times cause boardum kills. you start to see the missing pieces which there are many. plus if you goto other message boards 9-10 will agree with me . and before you try to call me on that. they already have -Darkufoblogspot- go check it out. so ive done my home work and i also cant wait for monday just to see if they can prove me wrong cause there the only ones who can.

heroguy · 2 months ago

you still dont explain how there is a plot hole and the suggestion of chandra losing his memory ater cayote sands is also suggested in one of the episodes, And patient Zero is the name he gave gabriel (as he wasnt sylar quite yet) because he was the first person who chandra contacted to agree to some testing on chandras solo "special finding project". its just a name...To explain it further we could also assume chandra worked on cayote sands things went crazy then he vowed never to work with specials again....but later he would have shanti who not only had powers but a virus as well she dies right before mohinder is born which prompts chandras resurection of finding specials. you see people can cange theyre mind when certain things happen sooo explain to me where the plot hole is?

heroguy · 2 months ago

also cayote sands was a masacre and not something someone would be proud of it was Chandras and Angelas not to mention Charles dark secret which in turn created "the company"

kinggenesis · 2 months ago

the plot hole. rewatch season 1 i think episode 1 when chandra is talking to the other indian guy. i remember it was rainging in that perticululer scene he said something along the lines .people will think your carzy these people cannot exist. ..and then in season 3 1963 or what ever date thet gave. there is a young dr. suresh. surrounded with speacial people and seemingly has full knowledge and is awear that many of them exist throught out the world. now if they erased his mind. they shouldhave showed it. not mentioned it. which would have been proof enough for me . and you aswell because you wouldnt have to read my ranting. and yes his daughter did die of a virus . but he had a gut feeling that she was special i dont belive he actua;y new. so in his depression of losing his kidhe started reseaerch and then along came mohinder. nonspeacial . and the camp was to only show that there was some kind of company that held specials becausde if you remember young anglea seen the guys with guns and got a little scared. the the doc reasured he it was for her protection .(uhhumm lier) joking. which then turned to a massacre due to her little sister i forgot her name annie or something.. but they could have erased his mind im cool with that. but they should tell us not leave us to think or speculate

kinggenesis · 2 months ago

another plot hole . im just throughing it out there so do with as you want . but another plot hole or pot hole cause its a big one . a major one actually . (the eclipse)thats all im gonna say is the eclipse thats it the eclipse p.l.o.t.h.o.l.e. the e.c.l.i.p.s.e. and nathan petrelli. changis his mind from wanting to tell the world about superhumans to wanting to give everyone super powers to wanting to lock up everyone with super powers . and the ultimate villan from season 2 adam monroe went out like a girl due to the hands of arthure and the lovely and beautiful elle bishop went from hating sylar for killing her father to making love with him by the end of that same episode ........ goto ign.com for a more incitefull gander where people think more like me. cause they actually see what i do ... bad plannin on behalf of the writers..because belive me when i say i (was) the absoulte biggest fan of heroes season 1 and the excitment i had for season 2 was admirable. but then everything fell short mostly part of the writers strike and when they announced the come back for a 3rd seaon ill admit the butterflies where there i couldnt wait. but i think they should take a good year off get a real strong story for all the character and no full well what they want to do . and then they will have the best season and maybe turn out to be the best show ever thought off . besides lost cause aint nothing topping that.

will · 2 months ago

i wonder how this guy will flesh out kneppers character/history... i hope connolly will show a more humanistic side of the knepper - why hes seems so hellbent on rounding up our heroes. will ask kring on MOnday. hopefully he can share his thoughts... heard hes going to be live on gaia online before the premiere

Tarot1 · 2 months ago

I'm wondering if this is a flashback ep or not.

kiery · 2 months ago

heroes is best show ever got a smoke bro?

matt · 2 months ago

maury parkman probably damaged chandras memory but because his mind control abilities are not the same as memory removal the brain synapeses for the memories are still there afterward. as I understand it unless you have regen memories hit by the haitian don't even have a chance to come back. the mind powers merely prevent thinking about the memory in any way, but the memory in question is still a part of that person, so it stands that a portion of the memory can come through on their own. case in point the current goings on with sylar/ nathan. this is probably what caused chandras to restart his hero research.

jonathan b · 2 months ago

So many things in Heroes make no logical sense, but I watch it anyways...for some reason.