DISQUS

kinggenesis · 3 weeks ago

he already tried 4o something times in season 1 ..dose anyone remember that .. cause the writer thought we forgot . theres noway to save charlie hiro should already no that.

unsunghero · 3 weeks ago

True, but I guess it just comes down to showing us rather than telling us. Plus, depending on whether you consider his new "screw the butterfly effect" philosophy as an upgrade to his power, I think it would be worth making a 41st attempt under the new parameters. Plus, last time I remember it, Sylar ended up killing her and taking her power--which definitely conflicts with Hiro's ideal of dying with dignity and what-not.

Kuer · 4 weeks ago

Is it possible that Hiro will at first try to save Charlie, but then assist in her murder when he learns that if he changes this, the consequences will be horrible? Nah... That would be too obvious.

Tarot1 · 3 weeks ago

It occurrs to me that even if Hiro does save Charlie from Sylar there's no way to fix the aneurism that she has. So even if she's not murdered she's still on borrowed time.

wolf · 3 weeks ago

mayb he will teleport her to the future with him and peter will heal them both

tracy · 3 weeks ago

oh i like that ideal. ihope hiro saves her

ZekielsFury · 3 weeks ago

It really does look like he's helping to kill Charlie by the end... that would be terrible.
Haha, must be a trip for ZQ to be back in the old "Simple Sylar" role, as I call it.

I hope this one is a good one.

As for the aneurysm... Hiro's dying too, so they're really in the same boat unless they get Peter... but I see Sylar not getting her power as the cause of a massive paradox, neh?

I don't see this one ending well for Hiro at all.

Samuel's presence here is intriguing... I'm liking his character but not really liking the mystery to his motives, because I have this nasty feeling we'll be let down by some sub-par conspiracy that will be painfully obvious upon review.

aspirapolvere · 3 weeks ago

I don't think Charlie's power helped Sylar that much. If I recall correctly, she just had a superpoweful memory.
What I mean to say is that if Sylar doesn't get her ability the future won't dissolve because of it. So it's possible for Hiro to save Charlie from Sylar, but not from her inevitable death.
As a side note, I like Samuel's omnipresence. It's like the writers are explaining things for us through him. He does need a good motive, but that can wait.

SomeGuy · 3 weeks ago

If Sylar didn't get Charlie's memory, he wouldn't have remembered Zane Taylor's address (Graphic novel from season 1) and wouldn't meet Mohinder and go on that hunting spree and look for his list, wouldn't kill Dale smithers and get her super hearing which he used to overhear Ted Sprague's conversation about being a wanted man which he used to his advantage to trap him, kill him, take his powers and have that significant fight with Peter in Kirby Plaza. Also, the season 1 Hiro wouldn't have had to go back in time and save her and went to "save the cheerleader" with Ando and Peter which probably would have changed events of that day significantly. Also since Sylar ended up meeting Mohinder through this timeline like I said, he wouldn't have fought and killed Peter, which was how it was revealed that Peter couldn't die which helped Nathan decide whether or not to go through with the plan Linderman had. So there. Butterfly effect.

LavaGlow · 3 weeks ago

it is not that hard to remember an address

Cody4 · 3 weeks ago

hahaha ownded his whole theory in one sentence, i like that

sparkplug69 · 3 weeks ago

Samuel might be there to be reason and truth, to stop Hiro from causing a massive butterfly effect, but.... if Hiro does assist in the death of Charlie we might see varient of the Dark Hiro from season 1. (If he lives long enough). But what if what happen wasn't suppose to happen the way it did. What if instead of "Save the Cheerleader, blah, blah ,blah" Save the Waitress, save the world! My head hurts, to much time travel.

Pr1vate Piles · 3 weeks ago

we cant really see whats happening at the end and i think hiro helping kill the one he loves is way way to dark for him, more like he tried to teleport them both out as she is about to get her head ripped off

heeerroooeesss · 3 weeks ago

at the end sylar is probably using his telekinesis to make hiro hold charlie in place as he kills her

Gaia · 3 weeks ago

At least on the promo it seems Hiro is bargaining with Sylar that if he helps her save Charlie, he will tell Sylar "everything he knows." At the end, it seems to me, that Sylar is going to excise Charlie's aneurysm.

shantivirus · 3 weeks ago

in season 1 sylar knew immediatly when he saw hiro about his power so maybe this won't cause a butterfly effect because it was meant to happen. how else did sylar know about hiro's power

matheroe · 3 weeks ago

Interseting idea but im not sure the writers are that true to continuity.

Name · 3 weeks ago

hey maybe charlie's power is whats causing her to get aneurysm just like hiro is getting a brain tumor from his power, so maybe he made a deal with syler that he'll let him take her power just not kill her. or he lets sylar take her power without killing her than hiro brings her to the future where peter can heal her disease. any thoughts?

Name · 3 weeks ago

I think the Sylar in the carnival is really Nathan inside of Sylar's body. He always seems to have Nathan's memories and not Sylar's even though Samuel keeps telling him that they are someone else's memories.

As soon as Sylar/Matt finds him, Sylar will leave Matt's body and enter his own...then they will show Sylar and Nathan in the same body just like they've shown Matt and Sylar in the same body...at which time, Sylar will kill Nathan.

Name · 3 weeks ago

I think you're on to something

sds · 3 weeks ago

Sylar at the carnival isn't Nathan inside Sylar's body. For one, Nathan is dead, he has never been 'inside' someones bodyin the same way Sylar is inside Matts, Nathans memories were simply transferred into Sylars brain. And secondly is it not plainly obvious that Sylar at the carnival doesn't know who he is - that was the whole point of the episode where he was in the police station and had no clue of his name or where he came from... Sylar at the carnival is someone with no mind, no history and no personality. He's discovering himself and only knows he's Sylar because he's been told so. The memories he's remembering are Nathans yes... because Matt put them there at the end of Series 3. Nathans dead as his personality, we're not going to see him inside anyones head and no-ones going to rekill him

geekface · 3 weeks ago

I think you're on to something.

Amber · 3 weeks ago

I want hiro to save charlie but it would go against his promise to himself not to mess with the past. this, would altar time completely. I think she was meant to die. I don't understand the carnival people. They're wierd, Especailly Samuel. I don't understand what he is trying to accomplish. I love HEROES!

Antweezy · 3 weeks ago

Maybe Hiro doesnt save Charlie but this time he gets the best od Sylar and REALLY screws up the future, which is what Samuel is really afraid of!

Kevin · 3 weeks ago

Sylar used her power to help remember after the Haitian erassed his mind remember? When they caught him after homecoming and Bennett said "go deep, i don't want him to remember a thing" Well guess what... he did.

JoHnNo · 3 weeks ago

You know the one thing that confuses me, lets say hiro goes back in time 3 years ago like he did, and lets say he bumped into his past self, without touching each other at all, lets say they want to time travel 5 years into the future, ok now first future hiro stop the bomb from exploding so he will see new york still up and running in his future but with past hiro he didnt stop the bomb yet so if you remeber the future he went to is the blown up new york so does people understand want I am saying? Like what if future Hiro wants to go to the blown up new york for some reason, could he do it?

bllllboobsllllb · 3 weeks ago

well with most time travel storylines (and these could be easily broken) there is a constant. The absolute present is usually the constant. Up to this point the present has been until hiro got ando to bone his sister. So who knows....maybe....