i think there is another series in it yet. but after that i hate to say it,no more please. think you have to end on a high note and they may aswell do it whilst people still enjoy it. i watch it religiously and am a 'heroes geek' but would'nt want it to turn in to something i hated. i dont think it will turn out like lost did,that show was crap and far fetched after the 5th episode never mind series.
invalid
· 9 months ago
Sorry but i think an end date is a good idea. I watch Lost and I have to say that although I would never want it to end, it will after next series and ABC have made a wise decision announcing this. Now all the remaining episodes will be full of finishing story lines and action to try and bring everything to a close, which will give the show the justice it deserves. All viewers will hate to see ii end, but it will finish on a high note. If they had continued then the show would fall apart. ^(Sorry abut Lost talk but it is relevant).^
Heroes is beginning to go that way and if NBC release an end date of after next season or 2 whatever, the show will be concluded in a way that should give it justice just like how amazing it was in season 1.
I say 2 more seasons max then finish it.
Bennet
· 9 months ago
They should make 3 more seasons :)
Think Fast
· 9 months ago
It seems like a good idea. I mean, then there is less worry of an abrupt cancellation and a series finale that almost ruins the show, as has happened in previous series. This can give the writers, and the viewers, a better timeline for thinking the story out too.
BigFAN
· 9 months ago
IT SHOULD NOT END!!
Sezza80
· 9 months ago
I don't want an end date but it might be inevitable
Samaritan
· 9 months ago
No end date....bad plan.
(1) Scarcity does NOT increase demand, unless we're talking comic books or the like. The demand increase will continue to be based on rumblings of excellent writing and delivery.
(2) The idea that it "helped" the other 3 programs is anecdotal and not and example of evidence-based fact. Also, I don't think that this factor was isolated from other factors to have been determined the cause of show success (did the writing get better, etc.?).
(3) Improved ratings? Excellent writing and execution will, not an "end date." See (1).
(4) I don't see it. I think with Fuller back on the scene, the buzz will pick back up and the end of this season, if not season 4 will see an upswing.
(5) "Death with Dignity"? What would be the point? Silly and superfluous.
All in all, Bryan Fuller...the writing driving force behind the success of season 1, has only barely had his presence felt via his presence in the writing room with last night's episode. His first writer's credit episode is not even airing for 2 weeks, and this knucklehead blogger wants to call for such a thing without giving this reinvigoration a chance to come to fruition? Sophomoric, premature and reactionary, at best, this idea is.
PhoenixP3K
· 9 months ago
We're doing season 3 and the show has already been renewed for a 4th season. However, there is nothing I hate more is when a series ends without proper closure (because they didn't know their season finale would be the series finale).
They should go up to season 5 and start writing an arc that will lead to that finale. They would have two full seasons to tell an amazing story.
If the show become too successful in it's final days, just make a spin-off. But still end the current series.
Linderman
· 9 months ago
Heroes has always been a cut above. I see no reason to follow in the footsteps of lesser shows. There is no reason to set a definite end date. If anything it will limit the writers because they will be forced to be leading to a predecided end point and thus have to cram. As for the lame excuse of always renege that is clearly false. I have never seen a show go on further after the fans were outraged by it ending other than Buffy who survived a similiar ordeal for 2 more seasons. The riot act only worked once. Fans still scream for more and get nothing. Besides if a show as epic as hereos sets an end date you can bet it will end in such a way that it would be absurd to continue and wouldnt make sense if they did. Sounds like a trap set by people who dont want heroes to go on running. Setting an end date would be a terrible idea and suck for hardcore fans. Besides it would mean the future is not as I have painted it. Heroes must reach at least 7 seasons and hopefully will go beyond that. I will be most disapointed if the end at 5 as I believe this end date will try to force them too do.
billy-the-kid
· 9 months ago
First off what was the point of the getting a job at the comic book shop if shes just going to become a runner.
I don't know about setting an end date I would guess a lot of people want to see a show down with Peter and Sylar.
I much rather there be a superpowerful bad guy that takes all the heroes to stop. A good ending may be after all the heroes do there part to save the world Sylar and Peter square off. Sylar or Peter could say, "I always wanted to know who is strongest" and then they go at it in the desert where they can really cut loose. It might be costly but they should show both of them using every ability they can from mind contol to flight. That would be one hell of a ending
commit on that !!! (sorry for bad spell or gar)
Jeanette
· 9 months ago
Heroes is huge in Europe. So let the show go on for a longer period of time and don't set an end date yet. Just let Heroes take a pause and let the writers come with a script that they can compare with the 1st season.
We love it overhere in The Netherlands and we don't want to see Heroes come to an end yet.
omidel
· 9 months ago
Do not end the show, it's an awfull ideea...there are 2 kinds of things 2 be done: -pause it and then come back with a storyline very rigulous -take the special effects money and bring it to the writers....there were very good movies in the past withouth so big effect. anyway hereos rulles here in Romania, also in europe.(plese promote on other countries ass well). All the decreasing ratings are made only in the US.
Clark1250
· 9 months ago
Seriously I think all these TV rating people are morons and don't think straight at all. Your shows are never the reason the ratings fall for the shows are good people are forced to work late and never come home on time to view the shows they love. They need to stop relying the fate of our favorite shows on ratings that only they care about. Like a man is going to rush home from work just to catch his favorite show that is like saying "I want to be fired" not to mention have you looked at the ratings of DVR's and Downloads of the web? The show is great and perfect and these ratings idiots are dumb and they need to find a new way to judge.
311
· 9 months ago
If Heroes ends anytime soon I will be pissed, it sucks that the ratings are bad but It is my favorite TV show. All the other junk on TV should be shut down, in fact they should just stop broadcasting if they cancel Heroes.
Scott
· 9 months ago
I do think an end date would be a good thing for the show. It would focus the creative team and it could have the potential to go out on a high note. It's working wonders for "Lost" right now. I certainly don't want it to end but I don't want it to go on and on and lose my like "ER" did many years ago.
SpydeeGee
· 9 months ago
BREAK IT DOWN
Give it a TV/comic book/Cliff hanger perspective.
For this season and next they can bring all the characters together to save the world one more time. Keep the stories going because characters can evolve and grow. Look at how the Star Trek franchise has grown. Yet all different shows have their own little personality, because of the characters. It may end but they can bring it back.
Another idea is to make it a little bit more smaller scale. Kind of like how CSI does it. There can be a band of heroes in different parts of the world or USA. They can be small teams or individuals all trying to save the world, the nation, the city from evil because evil lurks everywhere.
It might be a stretch to see comic book writers script TV shows but when it comes to heroes, I totally see it happening. Either they can show the hero come into contact with another person to deal with their powers. Pushing the individual to either become a hero or a nemesis.
Then there is always the perspective of how us normal citizens deal with a friend, neighbor, co-worker, classmate when they have a power. Do we help them, take advantage, turn them in?
The show can have an ending but I can see at the end of it spawning from the end different spin off of Heroes. The broad view from California, Japan, New York and D.C. is a little too hard to swallow. I always wondered how HRG got home in time to eat dinner when he was dealing with a person in NY. Even this season when Americans raided Hiro's hideout in Japan and brought them back to USA, how did that work? Heroes has a large scale view and I think it can be scaled down a bit. So, end it and rebuild and create a team or focus on one or two heroes.
I can see Hiro having his own show called something like "Heroes: Japan". hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
timbernett
· 9 months ago
well if the show ends in television, I really hope it will continue in at least a comic book series... like maybe DC or Marvel taking over... but with Tim Kring as the leader of the story line...
HEROGUY
· 9 months ago
I dont want it to end anytime soon, but maybe having an end date like 3 or 4 years down the road couldnt hurt, every show with a continuous plot has to end sometime. Although I dont want it to end at all because I love this show it will end eventually so being prepared for an end and having it spectacular would be a good thing rather then having it being canceled half way thru a season.
Munish
· 9 months ago
it should never end and i think it should show 80 mins of show one a week than just 40.
season 3 eps-20 was aamzing and kills me to know wht happens next.
the show should never end but have a great story which doesn't make us hate it
thanks
can't wait march 16 2009 for next show
joe
· 9 months ago
huge fan.. unfortunately.. i dont really care no more.. still watch it.. but it will never be how it was in 06 and early 07.. sadly enough
Donoterase
· 9 months ago
In response made by SpydeeGee,
I like your idea of turning them into something like CSI style. And timbernett makes a good point about marvel dc comics coming into play. It seems right now, they need another player. Heroes has the potential of becoming a show that doesn't necessarily need an end date, but rather a more structured way of airing successful seasons with good stories that interlink them.
Herogirl
· 9 months ago
all good things come to an endeven though heroes shouln't be classed as good, it should be classed as wicked!!!!!
On a different note it just dawned on me Sylars dad used two abilities in combination, Tk to hold something down and whistling to put a trans over the target i.e. the rabbit and Sylar.
HEROGUY
· 8 months ago
he actually pinned sylar down with arrows remember :P
Pete Magnum
· 9 months ago
THE REASON I LOVE HEROES IS THAT I CAN WATCH A HUNDRED EPISODES IN A ROW AND STILL WANT MORE. THATS WHY THERE SHOULD NOT BE AN END DATE. NOBODY UNDERSTANDS UNLESS YOU HAVE AN ABILITY LIKE I DO.
Barry1946
· 9 months ago
Heroes is one of the best shows ever the bad point is that the staff I mean the writers and the creator have to follow some political ideas they are given Obviously they are not free to think and write what they want. you can see if you care. coming of the new president and making us believe that the bad men(like Danko which is one of the best characters of the show) are responsible for recent problems of the country and the world and good men(the heroes) are going to keep them away and send them out of being in charge and closing of guantanamo and ... I think the art and the artists are the one who draws a wide new view for the society and people not the political men and goveners .think about it!
Tarot
· 9 months ago
I vote no. I don't think it will help and I think it will upset and alienate a lot of fans.
mama3
· 9 months ago
I think sending a definite ending date would not be good because you can't just change it. If a story is written to end, then how do you go on from there? I enjoy the show and hate to hear talks of ending. Too many good shows get cancelled because of ratings, but I don't think the rating system is valid with all the new technology and what about those who like the shows? The networks just say screw you, and start a new show...Really sucks, well that is my rant on the subject.
Sean
· 9 months ago
Tim Kring once said he had plans for 5 seasons, so i say let him have his 5 seasons and then consider the future. A Spin off could work, like a sitcom about Matt and Mohinder living it up on the streets of New York, one an untidy but hard working guy (matt) and the other an uptight scientist (Mohinder) come on, it practically writes itself! seriously though, 5 seasons, then a reality check ;)
Rowan
· 9 months ago
i beleive that they should, and most probably will, end the show next season in the final volume vol.5. it seems likely because nbc renewed it for a 4th season but only for 18-20 episodes, if i t were going on for more than 1 season more, there would be no specific number of episodes mentioned. also, i think heroes is the best, but they will make the next season final because it is heading the way of the future in 5yg. i think they should end it with either everyone losing their powers or dying, or maybe just sylar and/or peter alive but powerless. or even end it with a slightly tweaked version of 5yg.
Fred
· 9 months ago
Although I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HEROES and watch it religiously, I think that it should have an end date too. If it drags on horribly, it'll just make everything worse.
But I don't think Heroes is all that doomed. I mean, the ratings have slipped quite a bit, but if we rouse enough activity, then it might get those who have "lost faith" in heroes.
Leigh
· 9 months ago
As I see it, as much as I love Heroes, an end date would be ideal because then maybe the writers can get thier act together and think of a story line that will develop with the heroes actually heading somwhere that has a point to it. That way the show will be stronger instead of everyone struggling to thier unclear destination.
UnsungHero
· 9 months ago
This show shouldn't set a specific end date unless it knows EXACTLY where it's going with it all. Just because the strategy seems to have worked for Lost, The Shield and Battlestar Galactica doesn't mean it'll work for Heroes. I think this very idea speaks to what may be the heart of this show's problem: It's not secure in its own identity. This cannot be made anymore obvious when we as the viewers are constantly being asked how to save the show. Just because all the "other cool shows" are or have resorted to this sort of thing, doesn't necessarily mean Heroes needs to.
I also believe that such a strategy also puts unnecessary pressure on the writing staff to come up with some fancy grandiose conclusion. Apparently, there's already enough on their plate with the fight against declining ratings and the desire to regain the "fresh and shiny" look of Season 1.
Contrary to the article, reneging is not an option. If Heroes does decide to go out with a decided bang, it does not need to come back. It's a decision that has to be made with a backbone. If nothing else, it's kind of a betrayal to have a climactic grand finale and then ASSUME the hardcore fans will come back and sit through the aftermath of what was supposed to be the end-all-be-all conclusion. Such a move would be nothing short of foul play.
However, I DO believe that the show should switch back to Kring's original idea of a rotating cast, giving the current set another season or two and then slowly putting them all on buses or killing them off for real. ie: Peter and Sylar die for real (in an epic clash of course); Hiro goes back to running Yamagato, effectively sitting on the sidelines, etc etc,---All to give way for some fresh blood in fresh locations.
In regards to the argument at hand, the show should go on for as long as it needs to and not feel confined by a deadline that may or may not be necessary as the years go on. I'm not expecting the show to become a Doctor Who or even the Simpsons (both being famous long-runners), but I do think that the most dignified end for the show would not be to kill it in its prime, but to let it come to its organic conclusion. I believe THAT is the way the show should lean on its hardcore audience.
As for ratings, I think this show is way too sensitive towards them. Everybody knows the Nielsen ratings aren't adequately adjusted to consider the new media that people are using to watch television these days (DVR, internet, cell phones, etc).
I think this show's worse enemy is not the ratings, but rather the pervading sense of insecurity surrounding it. There are shows out there that are far worse off than Heroes even WITH the ratings slump.
Just saying.
Rant out.
HawdCoor
· 9 months ago
considering they are on the 3rd season.. I can see it goin for maybe 2 more.. end it fter 5 seasons, have everything mapped out and dont just throw things together... LOST is the best show on TV and I think they are doing the right thing too
311
· 9 months ago
Reposted because I doubt anyone read what I said before.
If Heroes ends anytime soon I will be pissed, it sucks that the ratings are bad but It is my favorite TV show. All the other junk on TV should be shut down, in fact they(NBC) should just stop broadcasting if they cancel Heroes because it is the only good thing on their channel in my opinion.
sylar14
· 9 months ago
to every one who said it should end i say go fudge yourselves if think it should end in a season or two then just don't watch after the next series
Smoothie
· 9 months ago
I Love the men in heroes
Whitney
· 9 months ago
Much as I love the show, I think that it has lost a little bit of its touch. It was great in the beginning and now, since the beginning of the "4th season", it was really doomed from the start. I am absolutely in love with the show. I am pretty sure that something else will come up, a show kind of like Heroes in a way.
Brettski
· 9 months ago
THATS IT !!!!!
IM taking the show and its writers to england just as soon as i get enough money.
heroes is great and yes some of the time they have had long drawn out story lines but there is so much potentional in this series
ok so viewers are falling so why dont NBC make a simple advert for tv the3 advert should recap a bit on the past then the presant then hint at the future with something gripping
should there be an end date NO the series has never had chance to boom yet it had allot to deal with the strike and everything
come one NBC get ya finger out your a**e and get people interested again
im so mad right now i could just grab sylar and shake him saying teach NBC a lesson as im your real Father the man you just met was mearly an illusion i created where else do you think parkman got his ability from remember i tiold you i absorb others powers
PPS Hiro & ando need bigger parts they are the comedy duo and Hiro needs his powers back soon
sorry rant over :D
f
· 9 months ago
Your all stupid its a TV show its meant to keep going. Everyone is complaining about so many small rediculous things like oh the story is going off course, blah blah. How about u morons stop crying and let the writers do there job.
heroesgirl
· 9 months ago
Heroes may be going through a bad patch at the moment, but that doesn't mean the ratings will never go as high again. You've got to remember, its been going on for 3 seasons now,so sure some people will lose interest. But they're not real fans!!! There is no point them setting an end date because they'll have to end it in a way it is surely never going to come back again, like the whole world blowing up as an example. Forcing the writers to push the script towards an ending is stupid because there will be a whole season based on heading towards this ending. No fans want to hear an end date, and quite encouraging don't you think that they mention ending dates to Heroes just because there ratings happen to be lower than normal?!?!
Ee
· 8 months ago
It's ridiculous to think the ratings are low. Heroes is mostly downloaded. It must be like that with all good shows, except for actualities and coffee time shows. The same thing is happening as is going on for somewhat longer with the music industry. All the bread is in the internet. So please don't worry. Shows with high ratings just have them because those shows aren't downloaded much but watched by people who are bored and therefore watch whatever best rubbish is available at that time. Heroes is more like a movie returning weekly. It is downloaded, no much people rent the DVD. Don't end it looks for new marketing and financing methods as well as pole method to monitor how many viewers there are in actual fact.
Heroes isn't doomed (anyway) - don't worry about that statement, it is ridiculous.
Ee
· 8 months ago
There'll be some other network which will buy it anyway. For instance BBC. There plenty of cash to waste in western society, so why not on a nice artful TV-show.
raj2296
· 8 months ago
it shouldn end so sooner atleast 3 or 4 more seasons needed
heroesgirl
· 8 months ago
All this hoo-ha about heroes collapsing is nonsense-people want to cause a stir every once in a while, and everyone new that there was going to come a time when a rumour would spread about Heroes ending for good. But it is such a good programme, loved by millions, (you can see this by how many fansites there are and how many people go on them to talk about their favourite show). Heroes is an amazing show, and should end when the writers think they've produced every single idea they can. Lets hope they never run out of them! xxx
AndrewK
· 8 months ago
My opinnion on the matter is this.
I think that Heroes should NOT set an official end date, however I think that they should get an ending in mind. That way it will still be a satisfying end to the series, whenever that will be, but they won't have backed themselves into a corner about HAVING to end the show then. This way they can take as long as they want before reaching that ending, but still have a satisfying ending.
Indian Girl
· 8 months ago
There are reasons for it and against it. Like some have said,the writers will have to make an ending which could mean they will cram all their potential s/l's into the seasons until the end date. But there are bigger and better reasons for setting an end date. It could end on a high note. They could write a s/l(s)that would be a perfect ending/leading up to the end. In some cases,it does help,but I don't watch the shows listed so I wouldn't know. So I guess I'll go with setting an end date, but it should last at least up to Season 6 for me to be happy.
HeroAddict
· 8 months ago
NO!!! Please don't start talking about an end date yet! Heroes is the only reason I look forward to Mondays! I love it, flaws and all! They need to go at least three mores seasons, hopefully more.
Patrick
· 8 months ago
Here you go..
what they should do is end the show on the " Day the Earth Ends" which is sum time 2012.
be hella tight.
nicolasnicklebee
· 8 months ago
What I don't understand is the constant criticism of season 2.
It's like every single television viewer completely forgot about the writers strike.
Maybe that is why the season didn't fan out as planned and there were half the amount of episodes that there should have been.
People need to stop complaining about season three being not so great because season two was not as good as one.
USE YOUR BRAINS: no writers = disruption of a successful project.
Fraptree
· 8 months ago
First off ending the show with a set # isn't a bad thing.
Let me start by saying that I consider "5" the magic number when it comes to TV series. Though I would prefer 7seasons. Anything less than 5 means its an average show. Like most things there are exceptions to the rule = Battlestar Galatica(Re imagined series) at 4 was a hit!!
At less than 5seasons means -A. Something stopped the show like Bad writing ,Bad acting, Actors cause trouble and leave, or (forbid) a death in the cast. Ex: John Ritter. (Who had a promising series and was canceled the next season) My wife Cried :( Or B. The writing and acting is GREAT!!!. However the show is based in such a far-out concept that the show never connects to the audience.
Set seasons aren't a bad thing. look at babylon 5. The writer JMS had the entire story planned over 5seasons before filming started. A wonderful series. A previous commenter said that if Heroes ended with great rating that a spinoff could occur. Spin-offs aren't usually a good thing. FLO spunoff from Mel's diner, The Ropers spunoff from "Threes Co." Which ironically spawned another spinoof "Three's a crowd" with only lasted one season "I think". Also Friends spunoff "joey". Right back to Babylon 5 which spunoff "Crusade"= 1 season. As before "exceptions to the rule" Frasier spunoff from "cheers" and ran for years. Both Ran for 11 seasons each. Some would say Frasier was better. At the same time you don't want to drag it out. I used to read comics quite a bit and was thrilled to hear about Smallville.been watching since the begining. Its finishing up its 8th. I heard rumors that a 9th was being pushed for. I hope not. This last season is great, but enough is enough. Tom Welling's character has been practically played out. A lot of Cast has left and time to end it with a bang.
I'd push for a fifth. Examine the Rating and characters at the end of the fourth. It doens't look promising for the show. Then fight like hell and get a fifth and sixth to corral all the storylines and wrap it up. I'd prefer 7seasons at least though :).. IMO.
Oreo
· 8 months ago
Has anyone heard of Doctor Who? It is a British show. It started in the late 1960s? and ended in the 1980s until a movie came out in the 1990s. Now it is on as a regular series again and has thrived for four seasons. Grant it, the way it works is different over there. They only get thirteen episodes in a season (although over there it is called a series). Anyway, I seem to recall what allowed it to come back was that fans. After the series ended, merchandise kept selling and books about Doctor Who came out. I guess they raised enough interest that they were able to bring it back. Now keep in mind it has been a year or two since I've looked it up so I don't remember all the details or if I even remember it correctly. But you get the idea.
yes they should end it if they going to take off hayden off the show she is the most famous of them all and it would be a bad ideal for the show and the fans she hot she been in this show since it started for more can i say you might not like her but a lot of other people do.
joao
· 8 months ago
i think heroes is great, and here in europe every people loves it. i think it should have two more volumes, at least. sylar should go back two the way he was in the first season. and hiro should stop acting like a child and get his powers back. peter should get his original hability back. however, i think the show is getting much better, like it was in the first season,
Kevin
· 8 months ago
Heroes should not end. I think Heroes is being given a hard time at the moment by bloggers and people who fancy themselves critics but an end date is absurd. Firstly I think the problem with the show was the mess up of season two. The story planned for season two didn't happen because of the strike then the beginning of season three felt like a 'where do we go search' because there was no proper rounding to the previous arc. With Fuller back on the show I think it should be given a chance to redeem its former glory next season. While this year's series wasn't riveting I still think it was much better than most other tv shows on at the moment and there is so much more that could be explored with the large ensemble cast that I refuse to give up on the show. I'm loving the return of Mica as the rebel. Anyone who thinks that tv shows go out better when they know it's coming is only right to the point that they get to round off some storylines better but the show DIES I'd rather not see heroes die. If garbage like One Tree Hill can survive for 7 years Heroes deserves at least 20!!!!
Kevin
· 8 months ago
I also wanted to say that in my opinion end dates kill the fan base. If I know a show is going to end, I don't watch it. ESPECIALLY if I think it's good because my heart breaks when it ends. I never invest myself in a show unless I think it's going to last and NEVER watch the first season of anything anymore unless I know it's been renewed for a second season. Life doesn't end with a big plan. It dies spontaneously and without warning. Tv should be the same. Wrapping it up in a nice neat package so that it can be put on a shelf and forgotten about is stupid. Buffy never truly ended after the 7th season because of the Slayers' awakening and I loved that even if the show was gone, I could imagine all the wonderful stories/possibilities with that many super-charged women. (Then the comics came but that's besides the point)
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I watch Lost and I have to say that although I would never want it to end, it will after next series and ABC have made a wise decision announcing this.
Now all the remaining episodes will be full of finishing story lines and action to try and bring everything to a close, which will give the show the justice it deserves. All viewers will hate to see ii end, but it will finish on a high note. If they had continued then the show would fall apart.
^(Sorry abut Lost talk but it is relevant).^
Heroes is beginning to go that way and if NBC release an end date of after next season or 2 whatever, the show will be concluded in a way that should give it justice just like how amazing it was in season 1.
I say 2 more seasons max then finish it.
(1) Scarcity does NOT increase demand, unless we're talking comic books or the like. The demand increase will continue to be based on rumblings of excellent writing and delivery.
(2) The idea that it "helped" the other 3 programs is anecdotal and not and example of evidence-based fact. Also, I don't think that this factor was isolated from other factors to have been determined the cause of show success (did the writing get better, etc.?).
(3) Improved ratings? Excellent writing and execution will, not an "end date." See (1).
(4) I don't see it. I think with Fuller back on the scene, the buzz will pick back up and the end of this season, if not season 4 will see an upswing.
(5) "Death with Dignity"? What would be the point? Silly and superfluous.
All in all, Bryan Fuller...the writing driving force behind the success of season 1, has only barely had his presence felt via his presence in the writing room with last night's episode. His first writer's credit episode is not even airing for 2 weeks, and this knucklehead blogger wants to call for such a thing without giving this reinvigoration a chance to come to fruition? Sophomoric, premature and reactionary, at best, this idea is.
They should go up to season 5 and start writing an arc that will lead to that finale. They would have two full seasons to tell an amazing story.
If the show become too successful in it's final days, just make a spin-off. But still end the current series.
Besides if a show as epic as hereos sets an end date you can bet it will end in such a way that it would be absurd to continue and wouldnt make sense if they did. Sounds like a trap set by people who dont want heroes to go on running. Setting an end date would be a terrible idea and suck for hardcore fans.
Besides it would mean the future is not as I have painted it. Heroes must reach at least 7 seasons and hopefully will go beyond that. I will be most disapointed if the end at 5 as I believe this end date will try to force them too do.
I don't know about setting an end date
I would guess a lot of people want to see a show down with Peter and Sylar.
I much rather there be a superpowerful bad guy that takes all the heroes to stop. A good ending may be after all the heroes do there part to save the world Sylar and Peter square off. Sylar or Peter could say, "I always wanted to know who is strongest" and then they go at it in the desert where they can really cut loose. It might be costly but they should show both of them using every ability they can from mind contol to flight.
That would be one hell of a ending
commit on that !!! (sorry for bad spell or gar)
Just let Heroes take a pause and let the writers come with a script that they can compare with the 1st season.
We love it overhere in The Netherlands and we don't want to see Heroes come to an end yet.
-pause it and then come back with a storyline very rigulous
-take the special effects money and bring it to the writers....there were very good movies in the past withouth so big effect.
anyway hereos rulles here in Romania, also in europe.(plese promote on other countries ass well).
All the decreasing ratings are made only in the US.
Give it a TV/comic book/Cliff hanger perspective.
For this season and next they can bring all the characters together to save the world one more time. Keep the stories going because characters can evolve and grow. Look at how the Star Trek franchise has grown. Yet all different shows have their own little personality, because of the characters. It may end but they can bring it back.
Another idea is to make it a little bit more smaller scale. Kind of like how CSI does it. There can be a band of heroes in different parts of the world or USA. They can be small teams or individuals all trying to save the world, the nation, the city from evil because evil lurks everywhere.
It might be a stretch to see comic book writers script TV shows but when it comes to heroes, I totally see it happening. Either they can show the hero come into contact with another person to deal with their powers. Pushing the individual to either become a hero or a nemesis.
Then there is always the perspective of how us normal citizens deal with a friend, neighbor, co-worker, classmate when they have a power. Do we help them, take advantage, turn them in?
The show can have an ending but I can see at the end of it spawning from the end different spin off of Heroes. The broad view from California, Japan, New York and D.C. is a little too hard to swallow. I always wondered how HRG got home in time to eat dinner when he was dealing with a person in NY. Even this season when Americans raided Hiro's hideout in Japan and brought them back to USA, how did that work? Heroes has a large scale view and I think it can be scaled down a bit. So, end it and rebuild and create a team or focus on one or two heroes.
I can see Hiro having his own show called something like "Heroes: Japan". hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
season 3 eps-20 was aamzing and kills me to know wht happens next.
the show should never end but have a great story which doesn't make us hate it
thanks
can't wait march 16 2009 for next show
I like your idea of turning them into something like CSI style. And timbernett makes a good point about marvel dc comics coming into play. It seems right now, they need another player. Heroes has the potential of becoming a show that doesn't necessarily need an end date, but rather a more structured way of airing successful seasons with good stories that interlink them.
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coming of the new president and making us believe that the bad men(like Danko which is one of the best characters of the show) are responsible for recent problems of the country and the world and good men(the heroes) are going to keep them away and send them out of being in charge and closing of guantanamo and ...
I think the art and the artists are the one who draws a wide new view for the society and people not the political men and goveners .think about it!
If it drags on horribly, it'll just make everything worse.
But I don't think Heroes is all that doomed. I mean, the ratings have slipped quite a bit, but if we rouse enough activity, then it might get those who have "lost faith" in heroes.
I also believe that such a strategy also puts unnecessary pressure on the writing staff to come up with some fancy grandiose conclusion. Apparently, there's already enough on their plate with the fight against declining ratings and the desire to regain the "fresh and shiny" look of Season 1.
Contrary to the article, reneging is not an option. If Heroes does decide to go out with a decided bang, it does not need to come back. It's a decision that has to be made with a backbone. If nothing else, it's kind of a betrayal to have a climactic grand finale and then ASSUME the hardcore fans will come back and sit through the aftermath of what was supposed to be the end-all-be-all conclusion. Such a move would be nothing short of foul play.
However, I DO believe that the show should switch back to Kring's original idea of a rotating cast, giving the current set another season or two and then slowly putting them all on buses or killing them off for real. ie: Peter and Sylar die for real (in an epic clash of course); Hiro goes back to running Yamagato, effectively sitting on the sidelines, etc etc,---All to give way for some fresh blood in fresh locations.
In regards to the argument at hand, the show should go on for as long as it needs to and not feel confined by a deadline that may or may not be necessary as the years go on.
I'm not expecting the show to become a Doctor Who or even the Simpsons (both being famous long-runners), but I do think that the most dignified end for the show would not be to kill it in its prime, but to let it come to its organic conclusion. I believe THAT is the way the show should lean on its hardcore audience.
As for ratings, I think this show is way too sensitive towards them. Everybody knows the Nielsen ratings aren't adequately adjusted to consider the new media that people are using to watch television these days (DVR, internet, cell phones, etc).
I think this show's worse enemy is not the ratings, but rather the pervading sense of insecurity surrounding it. There are shows out there that are far worse off than Heroes even WITH the ratings slump.
Just saying.
Rant out.
If Heroes ends anytime soon I will be pissed, it sucks that the ratings are bad but It is my favorite TV show. All the other junk on TV should be shut down, in fact they(NBC) should just stop broadcasting if they cancel Heroes because it is the only good thing on their channel in my opinion.
IM taking the show and its writers to england just as soon as i get enough money.
heroes is great and yes some of the time they have had long drawn out story lines but there is so much potentional in this series
ok so viewers are falling so why dont NBC make a simple advert for tv the3 advert should recap a bit on the past then the presant then hint at the future with something gripping
should there be an end date NO the series has never had chance to boom yet it had allot to deal with the strike and everything
come one NBC get ya finger out your a**e and get people interested again
im so mad right now i could just grab sylar and shake him saying teach NBC a lesson as im your real Father the man you just met was mearly an illusion i created where else do you think parkman got his ability from remember i tiold you i absorb others powers
PPS Hiro & ando need bigger parts they are the comedy duo and Hiro needs his powers back soon
sorry rant over :D
Heroes isn't doomed (anyway) - don't worry about that statement, it is ridiculous.
I think that Heroes should NOT set an official end date, however I think that they should get an ending in mind. That way it will still be a satisfying end to the series, whenever that will be, but they won't have backed themselves into a corner about HAVING to end the show then. This way they can take as long as they want before reaching that ending, but still have a satisfying ending.
what they should do is end the show on the " Day the Earth Ends"
which is sum time 2012.
be hella tight.
It's like every single television viewer completely forgot about the writers strike.
Maybe that is why the season didn't fan out as planned and there were half the amount of episodes that there should have been.
People need to stop complaining about season three being not so great because season two was not as good as one.
USE YOUR BRAINS: no writers = disruption of a successful project.
Let me start by saying that I consider "5" the magic number when it comes to TV series. Though I would prefer 7seasons. Anything less than 5 means its an average show. Like most things there are exceptions to the rule = Battlestar Galatica(Re imagined series) at 4 was a hit!!
At less than 5seasons means
-A. Something stopped the show like Bad writing ,Bad acting, Actors cause trouble and leave, or (forbid) a death in the cast. Ex: John Ritter. (Who had a promising series and was canceled the next season) My wife Cried :(
Or B. The writing and acting is GREAT!!!. However the show is based in such a far-out concept that the show never connects to the audience.
Set seasons aren't a bad thing. look at babylon 5. The writer JMS had the entire story planned over 5seasons before filming started. A wonderful series. A previous commenter said that if Heroes ended with great rating that a spinoff could occur. Spin-offs aren't usually a good thing. FLO spunoff from Mel's diner, The Ropers spunoff from "Threes Co." Which ironically spawned another spinoof "Three's a crowd" with only lasted one season "I think". Also Friends spunoff "joey". Right back to Babylon 5 which spunoff "Crusade"= 1 season. As before "exceptions to the rule" Frasier spunoff from "cheers" and ran for years. Both Ran for 11 seasons each. Some would say Frasier was better. At the same time you don't want to drag it out. I used to read comics quite a bit and was thrilled to hear about Smallville.been watching since the begining. Its finishing up its 8th. I heard rumors that a 9th was being pushed for. I hope not. This last season is great, but enough is enough. Tom Welling's character has been practically played out. A lot of Cast has left and time to end it with a bang.
I'd push for a fifth. Examine the Rating and characters at the end of the fourth. It doens't look promising for the show. Then fight like hell and get a fifth and sixth to corral all the storylines and wrap it up. I'd prefer 7seasons at least though :).. IMO.
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I think Heroes is being given a hard time at the moment by bloggers and people who fancy themselves critics but an end date is absurd. Firstly I think the problem with the show was the mess up of season two. The story planned for season two didn't happen because of the strike then the beginning of season three felt like a 'where do we go search' because there was no proper rounding to the previous arc. With Fuller back on the show I think it should be given a chance to redeem its former glory next season. While this year's series wasn't riveting I still think it was much better than most other tv shows on at the moment and there is so much more that could be explored with the large ensemble cast that I refuse to give up on the show. I'm loving the return of Mica as the rebel.
Anyone who thinks that tv shows go out better when they know it's coming is only right to the point that they get to round off some storylines better but the show DIES I'd rather not see heroes die. If garbage like One Tree Hill can survive for 7 years Heroes deserves at least 20!!!!
Life doesn't end with a big plan. It dies spontaneously and without warning. Tv should be the same. Wrapping it up in a nice neat package so that it can be put on a shelf and forgotten about is stupid. Buffy never truly ended after the 7th season because of the Slayers' awakening and I loved that even if the show was gone, I could imagine all the wonderful stories/possibilities with that many super-charged women. (Then the comics came but that's besides the point)