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Also, I knew it was Claire that was the Light. lol. When Kaito said that "The Light" had to be protected, it was definitely Claire. "Save the cheerleader, save the world" is definitely going to come back.
...and MAYA?! what!? nooo I too was actually starting to warm up to her..and am I the only one that thinks she has HUGE potential for villain status OR bad A hero status?? Her ability just seems too large for the heroes universe to just kill her off so soon. Personally I think Mohindersaurus Rex should be the one to get the boot..his story just seems to be going nowhere...he failed at the formula and turned himself into a deteriorating bug/reptile thing. End of story?
I agree that Maya was VERY low on my fave character list during Season 2. Then again, what was all that great during S2, except introducing Adam? Then "Mayinder" came along, and, well.. I did start to like Maya a little bit. It would be an interesting twist if they recruited her for Pinehearst LOL. That's wicked :D. Unfortunately, looks like she'll be gone next week (3x06). Nooo!! They had a lot of potential w/ her storyline (ex. fight claire??).
And Adam's gone again?? Grrr... he's my fave villain LOL. But I must say, Sylar/Gabriel "rehabbing" is the coolest ever. I love plot twists like that. Saving Claire 2 weeks after almost killing her?? Sylar saving Angela from Peter?! Too cool. :) Ok, I've put enough to fill this whole page now LOL.
if thats the case, it would explain why maury is so scared of him. and why in angela's dream of a "possible" future all our 'good-guy' heroes get killed, by lets face it second rate super-humans.
maya dying... thats good she hasnt really added anything to the show. we need a PERMANENT death. it'll be good, let the bloodbath continue.
adam monroe dying, ugh... hes such an interesting character,..no so much a villian as an extremely misguided anti-hero. my guess is papa petrelli uses his power to take away his ability to heal and has him offed as a threat. thats how he'll die.
if that is papa patrellis power... we NEED the haitian NOW! where is he???
and where is elle, this whole time. they better come up with a good side story for her.
i also agree, claire is the 'light' and is key to saving the world
and for adam....it was a good villan. But a hope that he got an interesting dead. i said that because the death of DL.....( the worst death is see on the series)
If they were talking about Nathan they'd be more likely to be annoyed with Tracy as she's the one currently buffing the hunk. I don't think it's Meredith (that's not to say I necessarily think Meredith is going to survive this season, that Doyle guy is extremely creepy and the promo is hinting Claire will perhaps shoot someone and Sandra will survive to the following week, as has been seen in photos, so it can't be her), it's so clearly Maya and I for one am thrilled with the news, she adds nothing to the show except boobs.
hes allowing maury to keep his powers so he can talk to him.
I am SO crushing on the good cop bad cop thing going on with sylar!!!! whose the mom to his kid tho? or does he adopt????
Peter is sooo evil right now but i guarantee he'll eventually join sides with sylar it would make the show that much better if maybe they ganged up to save angela.......
CAN YOU IMAGINE THE LOOK ON THE FACES OF ANYONE WHO GOT IN THERE WAY????
way hottt!!!
it could have been maury who paralyzed angela as "arthur"?
first, if arthur's power is to remove others' powers, then that would be a genetic link with both peter (who absorbs powers) and sylar (who understands them). i think that for the "pure bloods," i.e., those who natively and genetically have powers, there are a finite number of mutations that themselves vary in degree from person to person (maury, angela, claude deveraux are all telepaths of a sort, while claire, adam, linderman all have a form of healing, and elle, meredith, and radiation guy are all conductors, etc.). this might me that arthur and the haitian could be subractors or negators or some such. synthetic powers are more diverse, perhaps, and less stable, less controllable.
however, second, i'm not sure that being a subtractor is arthur's power. remember in the graphic novel, the war buddies series, that arthur was noted to always have good luck and to beat the odds, and later linderman noted to nathan that papa petrelli was a very powerful man. i think arthur's power is something like being able to manipulate chance or to understand causality or envision all possible outcomes, and he doesn't have to use strings to do it--he can beat the odds because he can understand and control probability, just like his son sylar can understand and manipulate mechanism and causality.
now either way, if you think about his dna mingling with angela's, then both peter and sylar sort of make sense (assuming of course that one or either of them is actually a petrelli and not, say, a linderman). and if you think about arthur and angela playing on the same team along with linderman and the rest of the company, then you can see why they would be such a powerful couple.
so that begs the more important question. long ago nathan said that his father had always fought against linderman, and then papa petrelli "dies" mysteriously, and angela implants the memory of a desperate suicidal schizophrenic in the minds of her sons. angela and linderman were obviously conspiring against arthur, and he against them. something happened in that bizarre love triangle, and it has to do with the company decision to separate the formula. we still have a lot to learn about the company, its founding, its relation to adam, and this schism ...
the end.
Half bros mate u doesn’t give away a full son there is just no point 2 it. He is a illegitimate son which is why (I think) she gave him away.
I'm hoping as the episodes develop that he reveals the true extent of his powers. Something sinister and truly gruesome that no Petrelli bloodline can match.
Regarding the possible death of Maya, I think she has an awesome ability. It's a shame her character just never caught on with the fans. I just pray that whoever tTim Kring and the writers decide to kill, remains dead.
- if we remember from season two,there was a scene where mrs.petrelli said Peter's the strongest hero. so what you're thinking is far from happening
As for Mya she is fine as hell, with a weird power that I never understood. I mean her eyes turn black and kills everyone around her. Its kinda a lame power, but if it evolved she could target and just kill anyone she wanted no problem even Clair. Its true though she has no story this season other than to be hot and get done by the Doc. So it doesn't surprise me at all they would have done this.
One more thought for ya. Since peter met his future self he absorbed 4 years worth powers from him including putting himself in someones body and other things only writers can imagine. I hope they play off that. Plus WTF there are tons of times peter could have just made himself invisable and get away from trouble and be sneaky like Claude but I guess the all powerful peter has to be somewhat dumb of his powers otherwise whats the show for its his weakness.....until sylar
I did get a good laugh when he called Hiro a Japanese Nazi! LOL!
interesting.
ando died last chapter right?
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Papa Petrelli has alot to bring to this season, least explain how Sylar fits into the family!!!! who's older-him or peter? why did angela give him up for adoption and not peter r nathan?
Didnt Angela always say that Peter was like his father, in season 1 when he believed he could fly(but it was nathans ability) and he was in hospital-am I right here-I havent got the boxsets so not 100%!!
Also can any1 explain how peters power actually works for me, how he can just 'absorb' others abilities. I get that Slyar has to examine the brain and figure the power out before he can do it-smart boy, but peter hasnt a clue, he can just do it!!! don't get it!!
I think the writters just don't know were to bring Mya's story now so she's getting the bullet, she did nothing but whine and cry last season 'gabriel, sniff sniff boohooo, allahandro sniff sniff boohoo....'
Hiro is now officially my most hated character in the show. Hope they off him soon and the problem will be done. No more going to the future to save the world, just let the world die already, it needs too much saving just as it is.
and one more thing, the writers need to stop making hiro fall in love with every girl he meets cuz its getting on my nerves and getting him in trouble. Ando needs to fall in love period.(wat a perv lol remember in S1 wen he was watching Niki on the internet?)
Hiro's too much of a goody 2 shoes to do that to his own best friend.
Present Ando hasn't turned on him (yet). Hiro knows he can't change the past, but he can change the future. Deep down, he knows that he can change the outcome of his demise at the hand of future Ando.
And Hiro turns on Kensei before he turns on Hiro. Hiro knew shouldn't kiss the princess but went ahead. Hiro betrayed first, then Kensei.
True, Ando is Hiro's most loyal friend, except it hasn't been reflected. Ando is loyal, Hiro I'm not too sure. In Season 1, it was Ando that came back to fix the burnt bridges. Sadly, this friendship is more one sided then most think.
I think Hiro stopped time, talked Daphne into letting him pretend to kill Ando.
They released a video of Hiro finding a sword in a shop prior to the season premiere, and I think they guffed the whole 'is Ando really dead' scenario as a result of that.
It was a little too convenient for them to have a samurai sword so close to hand for Hiro to kill Ando don't you think?
And I agree their friendship is more one-sided this season but that doesn't make Hiro capable of killing Ando, he's scared of him but not enough to kill him at the request of someone he's only just met.
Hiro's been stupid this season but he's not that evil (not yet anyway), I have some faith in him (even if he is driving me crazy currently with his stupidity).
I can see only one reason to kill Adam, and that would be to show that the "immortals" can die. He's one character I'd like to keep on the show but, if its to show that even he can die, I'm fine with it. He's really the only disposable immortal right now.
Sylar - Character's story is the best on the show right now
Peter - Always a critical part of the show
Claire - Save the cheerleader, save the world
Adam - sorry bud, you have to take one for the team
can u imagine the look on noah bennet's face if Adam dies??? he'll be all over claire every sec of the day. and wats his prob??? sylar saves claire and he tries to get sylar killed?? sylar should get a badge not a grave plot. sure wen sylar tries to kill uncontrollably he's a monster but wen its peter, everyones at his side.....geez
Its weird the Maya bit, she must seriously piss off Mohinder! I thought from the trailer to the show one of Claires mums would be the one to die possibly Meredith, who has a fairly unexiting power
I still like the fact that He did a Hadoken while in the level 5 cell.
why he needs adam. steals his power and he heals out of that bed. this is backed by the adam aging photo, and then dying.
if he steals powers then he might have stolen a power to paralyze people, thus what he did to angela.
its also another variant of the patrelli genetic family NATURAL power, all save nathan who was made.
once again though, where is the haitian.
i didnt like her from the start, k she has a cool power but the character comes across to me as a spoilt little daddy's girl looking for approval-stand on your on 2legs!!guess she has to do that now that sylar killed papa:D:D
any1 else agree?
Also the fact that she's played by Kristin Bell makes her even cooler.
Yeah. Aside from being sexy and beautiful, she's a depiction on Heroes how manipulative and dangerous the Company is. Elle was.. tortured, manipulated, used.. yeah, everything you can think of.. that turned her into that kind of a person. The company know that the only way for Elle to gain power was to do that to her. Increasing pain increases the amount of current she does. She's cool. And drinks Slusho! If you want to hate a hero or a cast member, hate Mohinder, his storyline now sucks. He's building a coccoon bunker now. Now where did I put that bug spray...
every1's entitled to like or dislike certain characters-i just dnt like her!!(i liked jessica, u probs didn't!)
now that her dads dead, they'l either write it in that she'l go totally off the wall or some1 else will just step in and control her as she needs acceptance from some1-any1!!
is she locked up in the company now?-in ireland so a few weeks behind but loving getting the spoilers early:P
we just know that he is angelas son , his dad cld be anybody
Witch would grow back a brand new body for him...Anyway him aging 400 years doesn't show how the young immortals can die; other than taking away there power, which would be lame.
What ever way they kill Adam should be the same way you can kill the other immortals. Peter would be the exception to this rule IF the way to do it were through an ability.
Shoot either one of them while the Haitian's around their dead but when he walks away they heal again...This is why Noah didn't try and shoot him while the Haitian was around. The brain clearly can not be destroyed just blocked; I would assume that if you cut off Clair's head she would grow a new body and not a new head.
In Angela's dream Peter has a pipe sticking out of his head and he has blood up to his elbows on both hands. I would guess he was being controlled to kill the others and then they rammed a lead pipe in his head. This probably means that Adam does die from someone removing his power in the form of an ability. I hope this makes sense to you all.
Half bros mate u doesn’t give away a full son there is just no point 2 it. He is a illegitimate son which is why (I think) she gave him away.
P.S. (I wrote this two times coz i replied 2 some1s comment)
If I really think about it, Arthur Petrelli killing off Adam Monroe actually makes sense. Remember that in the Volume 2 storyline (which seems to have been easily forgotten anyway), Adam was killing off the 'Patriarch generation' which were the 12 founders of the company. I can't remember who are still alive but from this episode I think there are only three left: Arthur Petrelli, Angela and Maury Parkman. Do correct me if I'm wrong here.
Since Adam was such a dangerous foe to the 12, it's no wonder Arthur would definitely want Adam dead. Maybe it was even Adam who paralyzed him in the beginning (6 months before Season 1 begins if I'm not mistaken). But what Adam actually wanted and his motivations were actually unclear. Back then it was a virus, now it's a formula, what's next? A spore?
But then again, since Angela now leads the company and Arthur leads the Pinehearst which fights the company, it's a wonder where Adam stands. He hates the company (and he hates Angela too), but joining Pinehearst would make him stand with Arthur - who was one of the 12 company founders, which he also hates. It would be interesting to see him become a neutral man which stands to destroy both Pinehearst and the Company.
As for the heroes' stances? Peter will one day destroy Pinehearst (read the graphic novels). Daphne and Knox are now with Pinehearst, but in the future they will be joining Claire, as we saw in Episode 4. Claire is now in the company, but judging from the novels, it may be that Claire will be with Pinehearst too in the future. If she's with the company she would have no qualms with Pinehearst destroyed, would she?
Here's a little tidbit from Heroes' Wiki Page that I missed:
http://heroeswiki.com/Pinehearst_Company#Gallery
Man, I wonder how could they note such small details in that episode! Awesome!
2) Peter had absorbed Sylar's ability long before the watch episode. He just didn't understand or know about it. By seeing how everything works on the watch, he was able to in a way ignite the ability.
What if he lost the power to heal. Every time there's an episode with Future Peter, he never uses the ability to heal. Is this because he lost it?? Just a thought.
I like the thought of Arthur's ability to steal the power of who ever is in the room within him. But how does he get Maury to do his bidding. Maury was obviously scared, but why wouldn't he just never comeback in the room when he leaves. He keeps coming back to do Arthur's bidding, so I think it might be a little bit more.
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Syler; "Clair I never meant for you to..." Clair "shut up"
Since there are no new characters in the preview then maybe Mr. P does have mutiple powers and one is some sort of time inducing thing like making things new or old including people anything
Hiro teleports himself into a Japanese magic shop, where he looks around and finds what he’s looking for: a trick sword. Then he looked for “the other thing.” He was referring to packets of fake blood.
Stop whining he is alive ;p.
I think Peter and Sylar both inherited their abilities unlike Nathan because their abilities are very similar where as flying has nothing to do with absorbing powers. Im curious to see how they will tie everything in
syalr: understands how things work
Peter: abosrbs every1 elses powers
Do they sound the Same??? or similar???
I think Arthur can turn on his power when he wants to bc Maury seems pretty scared of him.
I don't know why everyone is hating on Maya! She can't help that she is hot and has powers! What's a girl supposed to do? Why didn't she just kill Mohinder though? It's obvious he is not in his right mind anymore...
loophole?
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/heroes/more/exc...
Hope you enjoy!
Meredith isnt "on" any former-humans, she WAS.
I think we're going to meet Barbara.
Atleast that's my understanding lol
Or he'll be "normal" in volume 4. he died & came back from dead(like the crow).
I believe peter & claire are not related. Meredith didn't tell claire her real father's not really nathan. She's peter's dream bride. She's only one who can contain peter's powers. Remember season 1 final, charles says "Love is stronger than hate itself". He need 2 be love,& he need claire. Claire needs peter. They need each together. If they don't stay together,the world will fall apart like "Five years Gong" & "The Second's Coming".
I think Tracy died in volume 4,because it'll start w/ a new storyline. My guess's Barb'll appear in "Fugitives". I think she's a cop,& she'll might team up w/ matt. She might have witchblade abilities,& she's bruette.
1st his ability will not "stealing powers" because if it was, mama Petrelli would see in her vision of the future other ways of Peter dying and not by a pipe in his back of his head (that means he will not be able to regenerate). If he could steal powers then he could steal Peters regenerate ability and kill him with more proper death :) ...
and now...let me think about his ability... I think he would have the same ability as Peter (Power Absorbsion, Mimicry) or better DNA Manipulation... He can manipulate his DNA or others DNA with powers so can copy their powers.... :)
gets killed by doyle, the fat guy who has trapped meredith.
doyles abilities is to manipulate body and mind. He tells adam to die
and adam dies.
Claire is the light... dying of the light... She shots Meredith while controlled by the other vilain.
Maya is in the description of the next episode, I doubt she will die in "Dying of the light"
Altho lovin Tracy, her power is ice cool. ;)
AND DONT KILL OFF MAYA!!!
Kill off mohinder, he is such a bore,
storyline sucks!
I dc if adam dies, he didnt add anything tbh for me.
Maya is a character whom acts like what a normal
person would be with a power,
which i find intersting and love watching her,
all others are I NEED TO SAVE THE WORLD, or
just kill others or/and hardly use their power
(Nathan BIG time - should have be killed off).
Maya needs to use her power to become a good hero tho,
she needs to ditch mohinder!
Maybe have her eyes turn white to resurect people?
we do no that she is smarter than Tracy and Niki for that matter as both had no clue of the other two, BUT barb found Zimmerman how did she do this??
A power that is even better that all the other Larters? From what I have seen of Tracy she doesn't look like some1 that is going to use her powers for the bad. But the vision (of Angela) was that Larter is going to be a villain.
The vision also had Adam and Parkmen Sr.
It was the reason Angela got Sylar 2 try 2 be good.
This was in the butterfly effect so it might have changed not sure if it has.
did any1 read the thing at the top it said that both maya and adam or gone never 2 return
Adam was a seriously great character, his life was so twisted, even if it was supposed to be one of a fairytale prince. Hiro accidently turned him into the world's worst nightmare in Season 2. *HEY! That's foreshadowing Hiro doing something terribly wrong!*
When the writer's strike rolled around the chapter was dumped and those last three episodes subverted the idea. With the way things have played out Maya's character has become useless beyond being an object of lust and annoyance for Mohinder. I'll be more than happy to see her go.
I will miss Adam though. I never really considered him a villain so much as an anti-hero and his capacity for playing the puppet strings was really cool. I was kind of looking forward to seeing more of him. The one hang up I have about him dying is Momma Petrelli's dream in which many of the heroes are dead. We saw Adam standing in the company of Knox, Tracy, Maury and the gang.
Now....Nathan is healed from the blood of Adam. Peter arrange the meeting when he was "friend" with Adam... so now you know... :)
Unless that blood continued 2 heal him then ok
anywho just a rant...
I also meant the Future Peter has an absorbed ability like that of Linderman's.
Claire was doing her thing with Gabriel during that time. If it was Claire's blood that did the job of saving him, they should have revealed it much earlier.
I didn't meant that Nathan had a power of Regeneration. He may have that Special gene that Claire has. But Claire had it all. Regeneration + Special gene. If Regeneration is something that made Claire "Special", we can call peter special too. But it wasn't "Save the meek nurse, save the world.", It was "Save the cheerleader, save the world." We don't know what the Special gene does, but it makes her special. And maybe Nathan has it too. But he does not have Regeneration. But yeah, we can continue to speculate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrySeLBrK1E
Also, people were saying that this isnt possible because he could have just touched Maury and gotten his ability and done all the stuff Maury did by himself. I don't think he would have been able to given his bed-ridden condition. This is why he needed Maury to do it, because Maury can't do things like that from that far away. He has to be relatively close, and perhaps even has to see the person.
This could also be why he wants Adam Monroe. He might want him to be brought to him so he can take his powers to heal himself.
Also, it could be why he wants the formula to get out. If he lets tons of other people get powers, then there is infinite possibilities for the powers he could take from them.
"What do all men with power want? More power."
Teehee. Just a theory elaborated by myself. lol
DISCUSS THIS!
If his ability was to absorb people's abilities by touch, why would Maury be so afraid? If Arthur's abilities were applied by touch, Maury would have no reason to be afraid.
It doesn't explain how he was able to enter Angela's dream and communicate with her as if he wasn't part of the dream but a somewhat glitch of dream.
It has to do something with the mind.
Angela - dreams - mind
Peter - sponge - mind
Sylar - understands everything - mind
Nathan - flight - formula
Arthur - duh duh duh
Please prove the reason that peters and sylars powers are the same in a way????
There not nothting alike. abosrob powers and understand how things works. they dont sound the same 2 me? do they 2 u?
only 2 thing the outcome of there powers and thats because syalr wonts power he could go learn maths but thats rubbish so he cuts off heads and learns powers.
But Tyrone i like that idea about the mind sounds right.
My idea seemed plausible because it covered a lot of things even hard to explain events like Pete's scar but it can't explain why he would want everyone to have powers.
The idea I had was he could control and manipulate anybodys power 100%, not actually take just make it work the way he wants it to, for example; If he wanted to kill Adam, he could reverse his healing power...gets old and dies, same with Pete he reverses his healing making the scar possible. But this doesn't explain why he wants everyone with power. By the same token your idea wouldn't explain why Adam would die...If he is supposed to die by him.
But if what you say is right except when he touches them he drains them like rogue then that would make him uberevil take all the power and rule the world...Wouldn't that kill everone though?
I don't think he drains them and kills them like rogue (if in fact his ability is to take by touch). If so, Angela would've have been dead by now.
I really do hope though that it has nothing with absorbing others abilities. We've got 2 characters like that already, do we need another. I'm hoping for some originality in powers for Arthur. Hopefully the writer's have done so.
But I really think he went into hiding because Pete started to manifest so that has be for a reason.
The former human could be Mohinder, or it could be Nathan (since he was a synthetic). How could this be Meredith in any way? Technically speaking she is a "hot specimen" but that does not go with the context of the statement. What about Tracy? She is hot and is hooking up with Nathan? I find her a little annoying too. Woe is me...I have a power...
The description still fits Maya really well who is also hot but annoying at times.
"Poor fella just got out of there…Yes, a villain you and I both love is going down next week, and once he’s gone, he’s not coming back." The only person that has been 6 feet under recently is Adam. I just can't imagine him not coming back! Love him!
In Seaseon 2 when Peter had no memory of having the ability to heal and no memory of Claire, he is able to heal when shot by the Irish guy. This would support the argument that some of Peter's abilities are automatic (like his ability to heal).
Also, the Haitian was definitely present when F_Peter was shot, thus he was unable to heal and died. This raises another point though. If his healing ability is automatic, when the Haitian is no longer present, he should heal.
just a thought
All We are sure about is that hiro puts a fake sword inplace of the 1 that killed ando and that Mr P is gonna rise 2 power after bieng heal by adam. All we wonna on is how he does it.
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If u watched Blade (movie) its the same. If Peter had a scar then got the power, would the scar heal, even tho it has healed in a way??
and if it would not then maybe if his power was stoped and a scar came then it could heal( Like A normal person) then his power 2 regenerate would not heal the scar as it is not an inj ???
Is this right??
some guy in blade was a human then became vampire it never healed. just wondering if people think this theory is right
So.. Arthur's ability may be Ability Manipulation, another type of mimicry but not necessarily like Peter's or a Rogue-type ability.. These are only speculated but has a potential.
Ability Manipulation
by Boogieman
The idea I had was he could control and manipulate anybodys power 100%, not actually take just make it work the way he wants it to, for example; If he wanted to kill Adam, he could reverse his healing power…gets old and dies, same with Pete he reverses his healing making the scar possible. But this doesn’t explain why he wants everyone with power. By the same token your idea wouldn’t explain why Adam would die…If he is supposed to die by him.
Intuitive Mimicry
by Enlightened by Heroes
by theory, both Peter's and Gabriel's power came from the father. so I played around the names of their powers and came up with this. Intuitive Mimicry + Precognitive Dreaming = Intuitive Aptitude + Emphatic Mimicry. Intuitive Mimicry works like a Chameleon unlike Peter's sponge. an AoE Mimicry that gives him Empirical knowledge of that ability. more of this on: http://www.heroestheseries.com/heroes-preview-s... | search my comments there.
Rogue
from MidnightSun
Okay, so someone on the IMDB forums just came up with a really cool ability for Arthur to have. You know how Sylar and Peter have similar abilities? And Arthur knew about their abilities, and was disappointed when Nathan didn’t have one. So he gave Nathan his. The theory was that Arthur has an ability similar to Peter and Sylar. They’re saying that he has an ability like Rogue, where he has to touch the person, and then he absorbs everything about them. Their ability, their thoughts, everything. I think this is what he did to Angela, and why she’s immobilized somehow. Which is weird because it was only in a dream and he still did it.
Mental Persuasion
by many of us here
I called it Mental Persuasion, but many of us thought of that here. An ability that's so powerful, if he says die to Adam, Adam will die. The body won't work without the mind. This is but an uber ability.
my comments:
yeah, just like the comments here.. If he has that rogue ability, he would've killed angela a long time ago.
intuitive mimicry, now that I have thought of it, seems a little dull. It doesn't answer the question how Adam dies. But we can also say, Adam didn't die from Arthur's ability. Died from a shot to the head would do it. This also answers how he had this weird power of paralyzing Angela. A telepathic can do it. Connects us to the power of Maury. "When Pull became Push."
Ability Manipulation has some merits, but ain't flawless. He can control it like of his own? that's like intuitive mimicry. but you said he can reverse the process. so it can be called intuitive ability manipulation. intuitive btw means empirical knowledge without training or education, in other words mastery. So Arthur used Maury's ability to project himself to Angela and paralyzed her? or Maybe it was Maury who did it. He can project Linderman unto others right? Maury is also called a nightmare man. He may have induced something to Angela to paralyze her. Her mind is active but her body's not responding. OR maybe they have the same power. Telepathy.
Mental Persuasion is an obvious power. Evidences lead us to it. Told Angela not to move, Adam to die. An uber-evil ability that can destroy the world.
- or - wait, how did Maury escaped from his nightmare? was it already answered? this question may lead us to his power. I think only a person with a power of Telepathy can free someone from that nightmare, just like Matt rescued Molly from that clown man. Hmm.
We're speculating what his power might be based on what is supposed to happen, what is happening who he was based on the GN and his wife and what his kids and grandchild can do. These are the only clues we have to go by...And it's fun, like a "who done it"
Out of all the people we have seen on the show this season, none have the power to kill Adam and if he is to be killed then it's by Mr.P since his is the only power that unaccounted for so far.
How he will do it is based on what power(s) he has...We already know none of the powers we have seen so far except for the black hole guy can kill an immortal like Clair, Adam, Peter or Syler.
This is why some of us say he can take powers away, manipulate the powers of others or absorb powers while removing them. Then you have to look at motive, why would he give other people power? The only thing that makes sense is he can control people with powers or he can take them for him self...Or Angela told the truth for once and he is suicidal and wants to take everyone with him.
Linderman wanted the world to unite in grief for the loss of N.Y., Adam wanted to kill everyone and start fresh, we don't have a clue what the hell Bob wanted, but what ever Arthur wants goes against what Angela wants and it will destroy the world...But he doesn't see it that way. So now that your up to speed...What's your theory?
BTW, there are proven ways to kill a virtually immortal person. We're talking about Claire, Adam, Gabriel and Peter.
1.) Stick a wedge or something in the back of their head until they rot. Essentially gone.
2.) Kill them in the presence of the Haitian. Then rot away. There's still a possibility that their abilities work again and regenerate.
3.) Blow/remove/blast/shotgun/eat their heads off. After all, Chandra is right. It's all in the brain. Gabriel realized it too.
We can say that Adam would've died under these 3 circumstances. But that would be lame way to kill an immortal right? So we still look in the possibility that he was killed by Arthur.
The only concrete usage of ability we had seen is paralyzing Angela. With his appearance on Angela's dream, saying a sentence in an echoing voice.. You won't be able to move.. Angela woke up in her dream, eyes wide open. Looking at Arthur's file. Nothing else. Even the teasers that have come out don't answer anything about his power.
Hey what about Arthur killing Adam? As I said before, he would've died in other possible ways. Arthur doesn't necessarily have killed Adam through his power. Or maybe he does. But does anyone had a proof? None.
Maury's facial expression back there was priceless. That implies that he was afraid of Arthur, right? Yeah, I saw that too. Priceless indeed. Yeah, he was afraid. But that just shows Arthur's powerful, even the Nightmare-man's ability is still pretty damn scary. But it doesn't give us a concrete proof of his ability.
Why is he on a bed? I don't know too. It gives us a hint that his power is not another type of regeneration. And needs a power that can regenerate him. According to the images posted here, Adam's together with Arthur on a room. We can say that Adam helped him recover. On how he did it is still in mystery, whether through blood transfusion, ability theft or ability absorption.
Did Ando die? Are they enemies now? Nope, he didn't die. If he died, there's no really good reason to ask if they are enemies. He can't have used a fake sword and blood to setup an unsuspecting Ando's death. So no. He is also with Hiro when they went to Usutsu, giving a lecture.
Who's Noah? (the son of Gabriel in the future) Apparently, Gabriel had a son named Noah, on why he named him like that is for the honor of HRG, Noah Bennet. Noah's mother was hinted to us by Kristin over at E! Online as a "silver-tongued and alive." It was Zachary known as Gabriel/Sylar himself said that in the interview, adding that it was too good to be given away. I can't think of anyone silver-tongued among the cast. Is it Claire? LOL. I also think it's Elle. Coz' they look great together. Whaat?
Where's Barbara? And what's her power? I don't know. But I strongly feel it looks like Niki and Tracy.
Where's Caitlin? She's gone and will never come back. After all, the future to the Present Peter is entirely different now thanks to the destruction of the Shanti virus.
Ando didn't die. Some 1 posted a link and it was seen with hiro and a sword which was springy.
And the reason he is poberlly in the bed is because of the time he "died" ov he didnt die so perhaps what happened was so bad that he cant even breathe by himself sounds like he was close 2 death. (btw i got this from season 1 when it was said that he commited sucide)
I don't know why he is on the bed. No one knows for sure. I don't say you're wrong. It's just there's no evidence. I was telling that he had no powers of regeneration. And he may need Adam's blood or something.
Please. read it again. slowly.
I think Arthur might have the same power as Gabriel / Sylar.
this would make me think that they gave peter his power as well, they kind of wanted to replicate their power but without the hunger part. This would also mean that Arthur is not limited to just one power...
this sounds really far fetched but if Arthur had the power to understand how things work, he could have been the one to help the company get all those files about people with powers, I mean how would they know exactly what their powers can do if there hasn't been anyone with that power before...
I hope you find this theory of mine possible
Techboi
- Caitlin being trapped in the future.
- Peter going back to the past to kill his brother when he could have reasoned with him beforehand.
- Sylar suddenly trying to be nice after the psychotic behaviour he displayed even when he was without his abilities.
- Agent Audrey's character.
- Claire's best friend Zach's character.
If they are going to do this, it better be good, cos frankly my fed up meter is starting to fill up.
Too many loose ends sustains not a great story.
- Maya won't die. Meredith will, according to IMDB that is.
- Caitlin is trapped forever because Peter destroyed Strain 138. And that's because of the writer's strike that it was abruptly ended like that.
- The Future Peter went to the past because he thought it all started when Nathan told everyone he can-- fly. So he shot him with a gun that was Claire's. Due again to the writer's strike.
- The season 3's theme is about villains. And how a hero has a part that is evil, and vice-versa. Gabriel/Sylar became nice to show that, from bad there's a hint of goodness
- Agent Audrey don't have a power. Her case was closed prior to the capture of Ted. Read about her at: http://heroeswiki.com/Audrey_Hanson
- According to Thomas Dekker (the actor), Zach was never intended to have any kind of importance in the story, but his presence just kept growing and growing.
1.) Stick a wedge or something in the back of their head until they rot. Essentially gone.
2.) Kill them in the presence of the Haitian. Then rot away. There’s still a possibility that their abilities work again and regenerate.
3.) Blow/remove/blast/shotgun/eat their heads off. After all, Chandra is right. It’s all in the brain. Gabriel realized it too.
All this is moot because it's not death just temporary death..If the key is the brain, then cutting off the head would just grow a new body, eat it? they will just regenerate inside them...Freaky!
We have seen the brain destroyed all kinds of different ways...Just because Adam told Peter that there is no coming back from being shot in the head means nothing, it's not like he could know 1st hand.
Seriously a nuclear blast would incinerate the brain but they came back to life.
The writers are really clever about some of the ways they tackle this subject...When Peter got the glass jammed in his skull it was Clair who pull it out, we don't know he would have regenerated if it were his brother or mother. The other is when F Peter didn't regenerate when he was shot and the Haitian was seemingly unconscious or on the gurney when the Haitian was around and the scar...Gives the feeling that F Peter couldn't regenerate which would explain the scar.
So is Arthur able to remove, disable or change the way any power works?
I'll give you Elle and Noah, I never checked any spoilers so I didn't know any of these things.
Here is something interesting; Angela's first dream showed Peter's chest slashed and dead or dieing (speculating)...Lets say that Arthur did to Pete what he is about to do to Adam.
After Pete got the hunger she has the new dream where Pete has a pipe sticking out of his head. If this is a clue then F Peter didn't have the regeneration ability anymore...being shot, freezing time with Clair (1st episode) and the scar and lets not forget running for dear life also in the 1st episode.
Based on this who ever said he could steel powers like rogue maybe right...then again the GN shows him regenerating after Clair shoots him. So maybe he gets it back somehow or just absorbs it again.
GOD! nothing fits perfectly with that damn scar!
That's what the episodes of heroes are saying about an immortal dying. I added a bit of rotting btw. Cremate them if you can.. essentially a carbonized dust. But.. There's no really case of an immortal dying! By this episode, if Adam's going to die, he's the first immortal to die. And will answer many question to that. If Arthur killed him, if those 3 that I mentioned works.. list goes on.
I have a question that's been bugging me..
What if claire's gene carries the true immortality? and nathan also carries that? That may explain why nathan despite being shot or blown away.. is still alive. and lucky for claire, the roulette of powers gave her regeneration.
the scar will come because of a glitch in his powers.
There is only 1 guy in heroes that has more than 1 power naturally... the Haition and negate powers and make u 4get. (ok parkman can make u see things, read minds, and make u do stuff but yh) Is it not possible that some1 like arther has perfected his skill which could make him limitless.
Only 2 people have got the same power naturlly (so nathan and fly boy dont count) could it be that Mr P has no power but was given it(like nathan) Remember he thinks he is immortal but he is not. Its just when powers are given they can be the same. but if ur a orginal it can manafest in a lot of differnt ways.
Powers evole. If u understand it enough you can use it and it gets better.
OMG perhaps claire and adam powers r not the same as when he did say u dont come back from that MR linderman could have healed him.
And guys if Sylar had lindermans power do u think he would learn the ablity of every1 then heal them?? (i think he would) its just he cant so he doesnt care.
o these are just notes so mistakes are there (i no).
She's HOT.. and she actually is really good this season (not all whinny and annoying like last season).
I actually dont believe that it is Adam Monroe that dies. where it says "he just got out of there" i think it could be reffering to someone else that we have just seen in the previous episode that we know got out of somewhere and i am talking about Matt Parkmans father he just got out of his own nightmare and was helping Mr. Petrelli so i actually believe it is him that is being killed off....well i hope so coz i like Adam Monroe
The bullet that Claire used to kill Peter is made of.. Haitian Pills!!!
The scar was also made by a sword with a blade made of.. Haitian Alloy!!!
God, its so annoying that they still want to delay that mystery. Hmm.
Maybe because its because there's already a season 4 (Fugitives) slated. And judging from that, they'll give Pinehearst, Daphne+Matt, Gabriel+Elle, Arthur, Maury's priceless facial expression, Doyle's licking prowess, Mohinder lizard (true-to-life) this round. Maybe Michael Buffer will appear. We'll see Ando, having his power, red Hadouken, Kamekameha. Being a Villain is still in question. Claire going bad isn't far off. Adding a new season gives them liberty of adding new heroes. I think developing the story lines of each characters is better. Sheesh. And Heroes is only shown every Monday.
Do you remember that spoiler going around, saying that once in an episode there will be a new eclipse, wich take away the powers from any hero? Remember that? I hope this will be just a future dream of angela or maybe Hiro or Peter is teleporting in this future where they see that all the powers are gone. I hope it's just something in the future where Adam is going to die, because I really love Adam, his jokes, his british accent, his way of thinking and so on! I don't wanna lose him on the show.. And so I hope this is just something happening in the future where he dies of old age.
Or another way, he will die but get back from someone else - because this is HEROES and so much people were taken back to show already, think about Peter, Nathan twice, now Ando and so on!
Talking about Mayas death.. huh I just don't know if it will be her who is going to die, because there will be also Meredith or Sandra Bennet.. And if Maya will die, I won't be that disappointed. Her power was always a bit interesting, but her storylines are just..crap.
Back to Adam, I don't want to lose him! He's my fav. character on the show.. damn. xD'
What if she originally really has powers,
you know like it's not injected.
THEN, she is injected with the serum,
like she has DOUBLE "power source".
THat would really make her different!
Coz she was shown being given to HRG by hiro's father right?
Could mean she came from the company after experiments.
And her mother also has a power, so she's also naturally powered.
hmm?
Also all of you saying it's meredith leaving because IMDB says that everyone else will be in future episodes, Meredith is classed as a guest star so she wont be confirmed for anything like the rest of them are so it will only update as she appears in the show. Personally i still think its Tracy that goes because of what Kirstin said:
"Mostly because I want her off of my hot specimen of a former human"
Meredith isn't with a former human. However as she was apparently only signed for 5 episodes alond with linderman, Next Episode could be her last, but she might just leave again, I hope we're making room for Barbara by getting rid of Tracy.
It COULD be Maya, but seeing as she has been cast as a regular this season i somehow can't see her getting killed off so early in, she was said to see Suresh go down a very dark path, one which i think he only just stepped on, theres more to him as we saw when peter went to see him in the future.
I hope we see Elle or Monica next episode, we need mroe of them.
Many would think the hero and villian who is going to die is...
Maya and Adam
But something tells me it could be..
Tracy and Maury
The reason why I think Tracy might die is that they're going to make room for Barbara (the third Ali clone).
Speaking of Ali Clone, were people a little surprise that Mama Petrelli didn't freak out when she met Tracy, after having that vision? I have a feeling she can tell the differences between Tracy and Barbara, and knew that that was Barbara in her vision. I mean she did bothered Kristen since the beginning of season 3, and well Maya was there for a while.
This sounds more like Tracy, basically she was human UNTIL she discovered what she can do. Yes now that she has been mentioned it's time to bring in Barbra.
A Villain Is Going SIX FEET UNDER! And the real crime? Poor fella just got out of THERE…Yes, a villain you and I both love is going down next week, and once he’s gone, he’s not coming back. Sadness.
This seems to sugest the person was already six feet under and just got out from under...I would agree with it being Maury if they said 5 feet under.
Peter in the future tells F Peter I want to see Clair, Nathan and Suresh and F Peter says you can't there aren't the people you think they are...Not all of us were born with abilities Some of us were made
We already know that Nathan was given his power even though they haven't said anything about the others.
you will not be surprised to learn that the reason has everything to do with Grandma Angela, Grandpa Arthur and the whole previous corrupt generation of Heroes. (Think back to when Kaito Nakamura handed off Baby Claire to HRG.)
Angela said they experimented on bunch of babies including you Nathan, Clair has the blood line of natural powers because of grandma and maybe mom, and she has a synthetic powers blood line from daddy. We don't know yet but Nathan could have developed an ability later or his genetic marker could have been hidden like his brother Gabriel.
You will watch her if she starts to manifest you will bring her back to us. I'm sure they would have looked her over before they gave her to HRG...We know she started to develop her power when she and her friend were pulling on the cheerleading outfit or rather a few days later.
Nathan healed in that hospital with no help from Linderman or Peter maybe natural markers can be passed down not synthetic ones.
In the GN war buddies chapter 5...Nathan is seen as a child playing with what appears to be an ANGEL and an airplane...And we keep hearing about the light...Clair is going to find out why she is special during an episode called "the dieing of the light".
An interesting area to explore is Shandra's connection to this zimmerman guy and the survey that he conducted because his daughter died. I have to go but I'll explain what I mean later.
No theory's on what Mo-cocoons is planning to do with all his new play things...I mean his people wall paper looks good but I'm sure he didn't put up these decorations to increase property value.
Food, wardrobe how about adrenal gland junky? Any thoughts?
My theory is she will get killed at Pinehurst...She and Nathan will get away and go to the company for help run into Hiro and Matt who will teleport them to Pinehurst after Matt tells them whats going to happen in the future. Meanwhile Pete and Syler have already teleported to Pinehurst to stop the bad guys. Else where Noah tries to save Clair and the mommas but will he be too late?...Lets see if any of this happens on the show, wonder how close I am?
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Maya or Tracy will not die in the "Dying of the Light" episode...
I wonder if they will kill off anyone else besides the two we shall find out about tonight this season? Or if they shall do an eye for an eye type deal and kill off people as new characters come in to avoid having too many people... hmmmmm
it was confirmed that Sylar is Arthur's son too..
why do you guys keep on arguing about that? .. O_o
think Fast MAN I LOVE THAT IDEA SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE 100% RIGHT. ITS A GOOD POWER 4 A HUNTER 2 HAVE. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT THEORY
and how adam would die.
its gonna all come down to sylar, parkman, and hiro to save the world.
even meredith.
meredith will be important character soon as trainer at Angela company.